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Keith's avatar

Interesting and enchanting.

I am well down life’s path, having two “primary” relationships, with never the “third” or surrogate accompanying relationship. Your coffee shop – back in my work-world those existed on a regular basis. Generally, however they were most often visited with colleagues. I would observe others, singular others, hanging out as regulars. They were there to be around other people. Between relationships I first learned of that attraction. Just people. I just needed other people. Not even to talk or interact with, but to be occupying the same space. If only for a time.

Your quest for a third place relationship, or just to explore the concept philosophically provokes many thoughts. Self, spouse are my primary relationships. Siblings, children, and grandchildren are an ebb and flow relationship. They get very busy with their own lives and relationships.

So many of my peers, in succeeding relationships, battle with the “relationships” that preceded their now primary relationship. When “mom” is not “my” mom. When “dad” is not “my” dad. An emotional caldron. Perhaps morass is more descriptive.

Just another human, to share their story/stories they yearn to share. Separate and apart from what is shared in the primary relationship. It seems to me, we need people, social creatures that we are.

As life evolves, I have been exposed to couples where they were “everything” to each other. Inevitable one passes – death or divorce. The loneliness which ensues I have observed destroys the survivor. Perhaps a third, or surrogate, relationship evolves into a survival relationship. We are all guaranteed to pass. Rarely do we get to pass “together”.

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Attractive Nuisance's avatar

Great, thought-provoking piece. My main third place and third relationships are in my recovery group. It is a no judgment setting where people share their innermost thoughts, dark memories and worries, where they can ask for help without shame. Not every third place or relationship will be like that but such groups (tellingly called a fellowship) are extraordinary in today’s world, in which the emphasis on self-sufficiency, status and one’s affiliations or identities actually isolate us and deprive us of the incredible power of community.

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